with which to dispute them. i'm willing to go with it. >> may i say one more thing on this point? one of the things that the gospel writers do and matthew and luke in particular of the four that we have, is that they turn to using the bible, the jewish bible, they one there is when they're wng, which is an ancient, ancient text, and they use it for factual information about the biography of jesus. it would be a little bit like you deciding to write a biography of jfk and using king leelear for factual biographical infon for jfk. >> what were they trying to do? apparently they were not reporters on the scene. they were not doing a reportial account, they were not giving you a who, what, when, where, why, correct? correct. >> they were doing this type of once-removed biography. >> well, it's not like they're sloppy researchers.